tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12844144.post9075940181591245178..comments2024-02-18T10:25:18.117-05:00Comments on The Kenilworthian: Examples of UnderpromotionMichael Goellerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14512012158305281566noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12844144.post-11810893906749455042007-02-26T20:03:00.000-05:002007-02-26T20:03:00.000-05:00I (unrated) just played a game against Greg Tomkov...I (unrated) just played a game against Greg Tomkovich (1759) where he had to Underpromote in order to avoid stalemate, a Bishop would have done it also. It was really all I could hope for and I played the few previous moves towards the chance. Of course , he was too slick to slip up, even though I feigned nonchalance at the prospect. Inside I was brain was doing backflips at the the thought of drawing. It was great while it lasted. Here's the game:<BR/>Greg Tomkovich - Joe Renna<BR/>white - black<BR/>1. d4, d5. 2. c4, e6. 3. Nc3, Bb4. 4. Nf3, Nc6. 5, Bg5, Nf6. 6. e3, O-O. 7. Bd3, dxc4. 8. Bxc4, e5. 9. dxe5, Qxd1. 10. Rxd1, Ne4. 11. O-O, Nxc3. 12. bxc3, Bxc3. 13. Bf4, Bg4. 14. Rc1, Ba5. 15. Bd5, Bd7. 16. Rfd1, Nd8. 17. Bxb7, Nxb7. 18. Rxd7, Nd8. 19. Nd4, Rb1. 20. e6, fxe6. 21. Bxc7, Rb7. 22. Rxd8, Rxd8. 23, Bxd8, Bxd8. 24. Nxc6, Rb8. 25. Nxd8, Rxd8. 26. Kf1, h6. 27. Ke2, Kh7. 28. Rc7, a5. 29. Ra7, Rd5. 30. e4, Rb5. 31. Ke3, Rh5. 32. h3, Rg5. 33. g4, Rc5. 34. Kd3, h5. 35. f4, Rb5. 36. e5, hxg4. 37. hxg4, Rd5+. 38. Kc4, Rd2. 39. Rxa5, Rf2. 40. f5, Re2. 41. e6, Re4+. 42. Kd5, Rxg4. 43. e7, Rg5. 44. Ke6, Rg6+. 45. fxg6, Kh6. 46. e8 (Rook), Kxg6. 47. Rf8, Kh6. 48. Kf5, g6+. 49. Kf6, Kh7. 50. Ra7+, Kh6. 51. Rh8++. 1-0Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12844144.post-18439910122512267822007-02-26T06:14:00.000-05:002007-02-26T06:14:00.000-05:00Indeed it is - but I think the theme of the one ab...Indeed it is - but I think the theme of the one above (white has to be ready for all three under-promotions) is really quite rare?Tom Chivershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09850710685193416732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12844144.post-75082486073318754522007-02-25T23:11:00.000-05:002007-02-25T23:11:00.000-05:00Malcolm -- Thanks for the interesting note about w...Malcolm -- Thanks for the interesting note about when a game is officially over. That itself is an interesting question. I'm sure speech act theory would be of some aid in all these discussions.<BR/><BR/>Tom -- Underpromotion is an important puzzle theme--even if rare in practice. I like the Knight fork in the one you give.Michael Goellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14512012158305281566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12844144.post-61540626202021705192007-02-25T21:10:00.000-05:002007-02-25T21:10:00.000-05:00Announced mates still happen!? Goodness. How silly...Announced mates still happen!? Goodness. How silly.<BR/><BR/>Michael, you might like this study, if you've not seen it before. Herbstman 1934. A classic on this theme. White to play and win. 5rk1/3qPb2/8/7P/8/3B4/8/1K1R4 w - - 0 1Tom Chivershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09850710685193416732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12844144.post-84467106626724526132007-02-25T21:05:00.000-05:002007-02-25T21:05:00.000-05:00Michael,You wrote "it had been settled as soon as ...Michael,<BR/><BR/>You wrote "it had been settled as soon as he shook his opponent's hand and signed the scoresheet".<BR/><BR/>In international play, at least, only the signing of the scoresheet really determines the result -- shaking hands is not a deciding factor. This has been tested a number of times, since it's not an unknown mistake/hustle, apparently.<BR/><BR/>Now, I'm not sure what the usual USCF interpretation is, since the USCF doesn't seem to make it's rules available, even to members, without payment. However, I did play in a US tournament last year (the American Open) and a dispute along these lines broke out in one of the lower section where player A announced mate, hands were shaken and then player B realised it wasn't mate after all (and he was, in fact, just winning). After a stand-up shouting match, the TD, Randy Hough, finally managed to restore calm and ruled play must continue. Not sure if this would be a consistent result across the country, by Randy's pretty experienced at this and his ruling certainly matched my understanding of what would happen under FIDE rules, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com